Tymen ([info]tymen) wrote,
@ 2006-10-02 04:29:00
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ACN: Possible Hotel
After looking through the various Hotels on my list.
I believe this is best one, it has reasonable prices, Suites available and can give a group discount for 10+ Hotel rooms.
They also have a Meeting Room Discount Proportionate to Number of Guest Rooms Used.

Ramada Hotel & Suites Downtown
300 Jarvis Street, Toronto, Ontario M5B 2C5, Canada

Check it out and tell me what you think.

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[info]tlatoani
2006-10-02 11:25 am UTC (link)
For some reason, that doesn't seem to actually be a link.

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Links
[info]tymen
2006-10-02 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Fixed it, sorry about that.

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[info]mcurry
2006-10-02 03:04 pm UTC (link)
The location looks fine, since while it's a bit farther east it's also closer to Queen Street and Eaton Centre and a bunch of other things, and the hotel itself look from the pictures like it's at least as nice as the Town Inn was (at least before the last round of sprucing up).

As for the cost....yeah, I guess that's pretty reasonable, even if it's noticeably more than what we were paying before. I put in for the next to last weekend of next September (the last weekend was farther out than the reservation system would allow me to check, but this is still past the 2007 film festival dates) for a King suite and got:

Thu. 09/20/07 CAD 169.00
Fri. 09/21/07 CAD 179.00
Sat. 09/22/07 CAD 179.00
3 nights (1 Room): CAD 527.00 [about USD 472 at current rates]

As I said, not entirely unreasonable, but I don't know if it falls into the budget range of the usual ACN attendees. Of course, if you can get a group discount that might be enough to nudge it into peoples' price range. I think Jack actually had a "how much would you be willing to pay for the hotel" question on his last survey.


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[info]tlatoani
2006-10-02 08:20 pm UTC (link)
That would have been well within our budget range until the US dollar crashed (heckuva job, Georgie). A bit expensive now.

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[info]tlatoani
2006-10-02 08:22 pm UTC (link)
(I'd like to hear what they might give for a group discount, though)

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Ambercon List
[info]tymen
2006-10-02 09:18 pm UTC (link)
That's the next move. I need numbers on attendees to find out how many rooms we need, before I can work out a deal. I also need a good negotiator to help do so.

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[info]jvankirk
2006-10-02 08:27 pm UTC (link)
Have you considered the possibly smaller attendance starting next year with the new US law on requiring a passport to go in and out of Canada taking effect?

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Passports
[info]tymen
2006-10-02 09:19 pm UTC (link)
Not at this point. This initial thrust was just to find a suitable Hotel.

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Re: Passports
[info]lintra
2006-10-03 12:59 am UTC (link)
December 31, 2007 – Passport required for all land border crossings, as well as air and sea travel.

So you've got one con, if you got it going next Sept, before this hits.

There are some folks this would impact, but I wouldn't bet on it being more than 5 - but 5 could make or break you.

I'll be getting a passport, soon, myself. Sooner rather than later, trying to beat the RFID chips in.

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[info]jvankirk
2006-10-02 08:28 pm UTC (link)
Regarding the prices, that is about 50% more expensive then what Amercon US or ACNW charge for rooms.

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Hotel Cost
[info]tymen
2006-10-02 09:22 pm UTC (link)
Don't forget exchange (albeit that is not entirely favourable at this point, but will still shave a little off the top) and also the deal made with the Hotel.

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Re: Hotel Cost
[info]mcurry
2006-10-02 11:52 pm UTC (link)
I think he was counting the exchange rate in....three nights at ACUS (which I think was $99/night?) would be USD 297 vs. USD 472 for that weekend I checked at the Ramada.

It's not that it isn't probably a very fair price for the downtown Toronto area, but it's more that people are used to paying for an Ambercon, and that's the very stumbling block that the last ACN con committee tripped over. The cost of being downtown used to be subsidized by the exchange rate (for us non-Canadians), but now it doesn't make enough of a dent to make it competitive with the other Ambercons (even wee little TBR managed $120/night).

Obviously if you can get a deal from the hotel, that'd help.

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